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Poster: guyzilla Date: November 21, 2010 01:01:59pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Please move to scifi/horror

http://www.archive.org/details/NightOfTheBloodBeast1958

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Poster: skybandit Date: November 22, 2010 12:44:14am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Please move to scifi/horror

Geez, guys, I hate to be a downer, but...

Night of the Blood Beast

Type of Work: Music
Registration Number / Date: RE0000316723 / 1986-12-23
Renewal registration for: EP0000124827 / 1958-11-15
Title: Night of the blood beast. m Alexander Laszlo.
Appears in: Structural music, v. 35
Copyright Claimant: Emmy Schiller Laszlo (W)

Variant title: Night of the blood beast
Names: Laszlo, Alexander
Laszlo, Emmy Schiller

You think maybe Alpha, Mill Creek, Sinister Cinema, Retro Media and Echo Bridge replaced Lazlo's music with stock sounds?

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Staff Video-Cellar Date: November 23, 2010 12:25:51am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Please move to scifi/horror

The registration date (15Nov58) for the sheet music is 3 months after the film's registration date (1Aug58). There are a number of court decisions that hold that the music is published in as much as it is included in the film and is part of the film's copyright. Taking that into account, the later registration of the music as printed sheet music is a separate, derivative copyright of already published film music that has no bearing on the public domain status of the film.

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Poster: billbarstad Date: November 23, 2010 06:10:06am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Please move to scifi/horror

I don't know the registration date for Devil Girl from Mars since its copyright wasn't renewed, but its music was registered on 1954-06-04 (see this post). I'm wondering if what is true for Night of the Blood Beast is true for it, so I or someone else can upload it. Any help will be appreciated!

This post was modified by billbarstad on 2010-11-23 14:10:06

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Poster: billbarstad Date: November 27, 2010 05:39:30am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Please move to scifi/horror

The movie was registered in 1955 (LP4658). Since the music was registered in 1954, the movie isn't PD.

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Poster: cosmico Date: November 22, 2010 06:08:37am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Please move to scifi/horror

Then if that's the case, a lot of the same music was used not only in the movie ATTACK OF THE GIANT LEECHES, but in *every* ROCKY JONES SPACE RANGER episode. Would those need to be pulled as well?

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Poster: skybandit Date: November 22, 2010 07:33:18am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Please move to scifi/horror

As Emily Litella used to say on SNL, "Never mind."
I checked "Alexander Lazlo" at the USCO and got over 500 hits for his music! Most of it has titles like "Horses gallop," "Car chase," and generic things like that. Looks like his wife renewed every damn thing he ever did! (Don't know if that's even legal to do on a work for hire.) Since these were all renewed in the '80's, and since she hasn't complained about Attack of the Giant Leeches, Beast from Haunted Cave, Rocky Jones, Racket Squad, The Amazing Mr. X,
Midnight Manhunt, Scared Stiff, The Great Flamarion, Dangerous Passage or One Body Too Many falling into the public domain, then we're probably okay.
I'd speculate that she put together an album of her husband's music and renewed the copyrights to cover it, but I don't know enough to make a judgement.
Sorry for the fuss.

This post was modified by skybandit on 2010-11-22 15:33:18

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Poster: cosmico Date: November 22, 2010 07:30:36am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Please move to scifi/horror

And as Emily Litella also said, "It's always something...if it's not one thing, it's another!" Hah! ;)

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Poster: skybandit Date: November 22, 2010 07:34:59am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Please move to scifi/horror

THAT was Roseanna Rosannadanna:)

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Poster: cosmico Date: November 22, 2010 07:41:37am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Please move to scifi/horror

Okay, well then..."Nevermind!" ;)

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Poster: Elric_Dewisant Date: November 22, 2010 09:37:57am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Please move to scifi/horror

The Great Flamarion (to state the obvious) was 1945.

You know. It's entirely possible that Mrs. Laszlo, 30 years after renewing already 30 to 40 year old copyrights in the 80s (that make 60 to 70 year old copyrights, roughly, as of this year), is herself now no longer among the living and thus, there may be no one around to enforce copyright.

Just stating a plausible, but grim possibility.

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Poster: billbarstad Date: November 22, 2010 07:07:24am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Please move to scifi/horror

Since Lazlo did the music for Attack of the Giant Leeches and Rocky Jones TV show and movies, and if the copyright for the music for those wasn't renewed, then I wouldn't think so.

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Poster: billbarstad Date: November 22, 2010 06:47:16am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Please move to scifi/horror

I recognize Lazlo's musical style from other movies, and the score's renewal looks legit, so this movie is still under copyright. Oh well...

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Poster: cosmico Date: November 21, 2010 01:04:37pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Please move to scifi/horror

Hooray! Many thanks, guyzilla! :)

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Poster: billbarstad Date: November 21, 2010 01:43:48pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Please move to scifi/horror

Are you sure that the monster costume was the same one used in Teenage Caveman? They certainly do look similar.

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Poster: cosmico Date: November 21, 2010 01:54:05pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Please move to scifi/horror

It's the same costume, plus or minus some little extras.

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Poster: guyzilla Date: November 21, 2010 02:48:32pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Please move to scifi/horror

Just like seeing the She Creature suit in "The Ghost of Dragstrip Hollow". Some small differences but the same suit. Corman re-used AIP monster suits a few times, so did AIP. In "Pajama Party" with Tommy Kirk the suits from "The Eye Creatures" were used.

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Poster: cosmico Date: November 21, 2010 03:01:33pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Please move to scifi/horror

Now that's one I didn't know...I've never seen Pajama Party.

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Poster: billbarstad Date: November 21, 2010 03:02:30pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Please move to scifi/horror

Oh, I gotta get a copy of that.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Staff Jeff Kaplan Date: November 21, 2010 03:53:27pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Please move to scifi/horror

it's been moved. it is still deriving.

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Poster: Moongleam Date: November 21, 2010 04:56:58pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Please move to scifi/horror

These are still waiting to be moved to Feature Films:

http://www.archive.org/details/They_Drive_by_Night_1938
http://www.archive.org/details/Woman_in_the_Dark_1934
http://www.archive.org/details/High_Powered_1945
http://www.archive.org/details/White_Zombie_1932
http://www.archive.org/details/Molly_and_Me_1945
http://www.archive.org/details/Dark_Mountain_1944
http://www.archive.org/details/Avenging_Hand_1936

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Poster: guyzilla Date: November 21, 2010 09:14:57pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Please move to scifi/horror

Thanks, Jeff.

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